"I think parents need to hear this and
consider all the implications of yelling,
spanking and corporal punishment before ever
using it. It's a great way for parents
to fast forward 20-30 years and hear what
their own children may say about how they were
raised. It’s true that not all children are
effected to the same extent but, personally
this is not a risk I would ever take with my
child."
"Wow, it had to have
taken a ton of courage for Beth Fenimore to be
able to publicly post that letter; she has my
deepest respect. She also has my deepest
sympathy since the pathology of her childhood
has so damaged her life and health."
"This is a stunning letter,
well-written and so poignant. I, too, hope
that others will come forward
as she has. They are the most potent
medicine to clear up this illness
of "Christian" spanking. I am sad for
Beth and sad that there is
yet another book advocating beating children
with a "rod". What drives
people to write such abusive trash is beyond
me."
"That is a very powerful letter.
To think that we are enabling these type of
parents to continue this abuse
by giving the stamp of approval in our
schools! We must raise the
bar, and hopefully this story will help the
cause. I really admire Beth
for her candor."
"I just read Beth Fenimore's
open letter on your web site and I am
sitting here crying. She has just
told my life story, including PTSD, IBS,
sexual dysfunction. Everything.
I'm attaching a drawing I did which has an
essay attached. Please feel
free to use it on your site."
"I
was moved by the open letter from Beth
Fenimore. From her photographs
she seems to have been a delightful little
girl. In this country
traditionally girls have been spanked less
than boys, as they have always
been perceived as less aggressive and
willful and therefore less in need
of it. And yet the approach of
Roy Lessin seems to have been
genuine and well meaning if misguided. Their
photograph depicts the Lessins
as sweet people, in particular Char looks as
though she doesn't have a
cruel or unkind bone in her body. The
open letter indicates the damage
that can be done by such an approach to
discipline, although some might
argue that the causal links have not been
fully established between the
treatment Beth had as a child and her
subsequent symptoms."
"I
find the subject of spanking
so strangely ambivalent. I think it is too
ingrained in our culture for
us to get away from it easily. As a child at
school I like everybody else
took caning for granted - it was simply part
of the landscape - no one
questioned it. I suspect that it is
like that for many people with
regard to spanking in general - they
wouldn't question it any more than
they would question the sun coming up each
day."
"In her powerful and
strongly affecting letter, Mrs Fenimore
exposes the effects that the barbarity
which goes under the unpleasant euphemism of
'spanking' can have on a child.
She describes what it is like to be beaten
in the manner that childcare
'experts' such as Roy Lessin recommend. She
shows that fear and humiliation
are the results of 'spanking', not the
respect that the advocates of spanking
claim. Only those with the hardest of hearts
could possibly read her testimony
without feeling the strongest revulsion at
this violence in the name of
discipline.
"I would like to express
my thanks to you for displaying this
document. Thanks to Mrs Fenimore's
letter, I am now more determined than ever
to play my part in making sure
that the practice of physical punishment is
criminalised here in the United
Kingdom.
Thanks for having such
a complete website on the issue of corporal
punishment. I especially
liked the essay on Vanessa, and the
recommendations for having cooperative
children. Also, thanks for posting
Beth Fenimore's compelling letter.
Every time I see her picture, the one with
the umbrella, I just want to
hug her, you can see the anxiety in her
eyes. I completely understand
why she wishes to remain childless, and
while I'm sure my own experiences
do not compare to hers, I too, left my
parent's home with disgust towards
'child rearing' and everything childhood
related, except for children.
I love children, I love talking to them,
treating them nicely, I guess
I just want to really be the way I wish
someone had been towards me.
I have argued my point several times in
online forums so I know how hard
it is, and understand your 'How to argue
like a prospanker' section.
Ironically enough, the first response I
usually get is: 'If you don't have
any children, don't speak.' I wish I
could be normal. I wish
I would yearn for a 'traditional family', I
wish I'd dream of having babies
like the other young women my age.
Anyway, I really appreciate what
you and other people are doing in the quest
for ending corporal punishment,
or at least the legality of it. I hope
to start my own website sometime
soon, along with a gentle discipline forum.
I am so glad to have
seen your website. I am a practicing
Christian and feel that spanking children
is wrong, counter productive and quite
possibly against what Christ actually
taught about children.
I was raised by my grandparents
from birth, it was intended that I was to be
returned to my biological
mother (their youngest child) when she was
able to care for me but due
to her continuing health concerns I remained
with them but had close contact
with her until her death when I was age 16.
I believe that most of the
spankings that I received were from my
grandmother's frustration at having
to raise a child in her fifties after all of
her children were raised and
out of the house. I was a good child, did
well in school and stayed out
of
trouble
for the most part.
I was spanked for getting my hair wet in the
bathtub, schoolwork not done
to parental standards as well as
"disrespect" or "poor attitude" which
were never explained fully enough for me to
understand what I had done
wrong.
I was often spanked with
a belt, yardstick or paint stirring stick
(which I actually believed as
a child was given out by the paint store as
a spanking device) as much
as 5 times a week and several times a day.
My grandmother would often stand
behind me with the belt when I would
practice the piano or do my
homework
so that if I made
a mistake it was easier to hit me. Another
time I was switched with a tree
branch until there were welts that bled and
scabbed over.
The worst spankings happened
between the ages of about 8 and 11, which
coincided with our attending
an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church.
The IFBC is known for
strict adherence to Biblical teaching and
children were to be spanked,
wives obedient without question and that was
the way it was. I also attended
the
school
and children were spanked
for such things as laughing in class,
talking out of turn or failing to
remember a Bible verse. Boys were spanked
far more often than girls and
had to drop their pants to receive a
spanking while we girls did not.
After one particularly
graphic sermon about disciplining your
children, some children who had
been quietly playing at the back of the
church were taken out and beaten.
I can still hear them screaming. I cried all
the way home and cried myself
to sleep that night. The next day I remember
being called in from playing
and told to slowly turn around. I saw a belt
hanging from a nail in the
den. I was taken on a tour of the house
where I saw belts hanging from
nails in several rooms of the house. I was
then given a spanking, for what
reason I do not
know, and
told that things would
be different from then on.
I do not know why we
finally stopped attending that church. I
think it was partially because
of the late hours of the evening services,
often lasting until 10 pm or
longer. My grandfather would often be tired
at work on Monday and Thursday
after one of these sessions. Another reason
for leaving was the constant
visiting by the pastor, as well as the
frightening subject matter of sermons.
I was often wetting the bed and requesting
to sleep with my parents after
hearing some of this stuff. I also believe
that my mother heard about the
spankings and saw what a nervous and scared
child that I had become.
Since I was about 10
when we left the church, the spanking
gradually stopped but I began to
become aggressive and often hit back when I
was threatened. I was 5'6"
and 130 pounds when I was 12 years old so I
was very capable of hitting
back. All I knew about dealing with your
frustrations was to hit someone
and nobody knew why this horrible girl was
hitting her grandparents who
were so wonderful to take her in when nobody
else would.
I was lucky in that I
never had my pants pulled down for spankings
but my grandmother often used
the belt as a whip and beat me wherever the
belt landed. I often had to
make up stories as to why I was constantly
bruised, not that anyone would
have believed me anyway.
To this day my grandmother
denies that she ever spanked me. I do not
argue with her anymore because
she is very old and in poor health but I
remember feeling the belt against
my back, the back of her hand against my
mouth even her fist against the
side of my head. I do not own a belt to this
day, all belts that come with
articles of clothing are thrown away
immediately. Belts are for holding
up pants, rulers are for measuring with and
paint stirring sticks are for
stirring paint. Children are NOT for
hitting.
Sadly this sort of child
abuse continues. I broke up with a fiance
for talking about "busting" our
future kids. He would say things like "If my
parents have to bust them
then they will get busted again when they
get home" I could not allow this
sort of thing to continue.
Thanks for having such
a website.
I went on line looking
for information on Roy Lessin, as I thought
his Just Think from DaySpring
Blessings was just one of the most well
written ideals of Christianity.
Imagine my horror to find the open letter
from Beth Fenimore in regards
to the
Spanking
book authored by Mr.
Lessin. My heart ached
after reading
Beth's letter, feeling the anguish and pain
that she experienced in her
childhood. I will never purchase
another item from DaySpring Blessings.
I sent the company an e-mail with a copy of
your book review, and told
them that Lessin should be removed from
their web site.
Thank you for continuing
to provide insight on this horrible plight,
that is construed as Christian
action.
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